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The Finance
Committee of the DeKalb County Board, met on Wednesday, November 2, 2005, @
7:00p.m., in the DeKalb County Administration Building’s Conference Room
East. Chairman Jeff Whelan called the meeting to order. Members present
were Sue Leifheit, Michael Haines, Dennis Sands, Ruth Anne Tobias and Jerry
Augsburger. Mr. Metzger was absent. Others present were Ray Bockman, Gary
Hanson, Pat Vary, Anita Turner, Diane Strand, Ken Johnson, Steve Slack,
Chris Rickert, Steve Kuhn, Roger Steimel, Howard Lyle, Kevin Hickey, Sheriff
Scott, Sharon Holmes, Margaret Whitwell, Christine Johnson, Joan
Berkes-Hanson, Greg Millburg, Julia Fullerton and Sally DeFauw. Chairman
Whelan welcomed Mr. Haines to the committee, who is replacing Steve Faivre.
APPROVAL OF
THE MINUTES
Moved by Ms. Sands, seconded by Ms. Leifheit, and it was carried unanimously
to approve the minutes from October 5, 2005.
APPROVAL OF
THE AGENDA
Moved by Ms. Tobias, seconded by Mr. Augsburger, and it was carried
unanimously to approve the agenda as presented.
FAMILY AND
MEDICAL LEAVE ACT POLICY
Mr. Gary Hanson, DeKalb County Deputy County Administrator, passed out an
amendment to the County’s Family Medical Leave Act. He has crossed out the
words that are being changed and underlined the new language. County
employees are eligible to take 12 weeks off for family and medical leave
currently for qualifying circumstances on a calendar year basis. He said
that what the County did not foresee is that an employee could time their
needs to be off for the last three months of the year and then again for
three months off in the beginning of the new year. People have been able to
do this, that is, some of them have taken up to 24 weeks off, he said.
Earlier this year the nursing home changed their policy to a floating
12-month period, so he is suggesting this for the rest of the county.
The other change is that when a person is off for worker’s compensation, and
when you are off for 3 days or more, it will be considered a leave under the
Family and Medical Leave Act, said Mr. Hanson.
The committee asked Mr. Hanson if this is new? Mr. Hanson said no, but it
is new to us, the County.
Moved by Ms. Tobias, seconded by Ms. Leifheit, and it was carried
unanimously to be forwarded to the full board for approval.
PUBLIC
HEARING – PROPERTY TAX LEVY
Chairman Whelan called the public hearing to order for the purpose of the
property tax levy. He asked if there was anyone in the audience who wanted
to be heard on this issue? Chairman Whelan asked that people take 3 minutes
to voice their concerns. Ms. Donna Burton,
Kingston, Illinois, asked to be heard. Ms. Butron said that with all the
gas prices going up, with the Governor’s newly imposed Children’s Insurance
Act, and with this new 10% increase in the County’s budget, she feels that
if the County’s citizens have to live within a tight budget that she feels
the County government should too, until the economy calms down and levels
out. The farmers are still out in the field to harvest corn that is going
to bring in about $1.34 a bushel. She finds it really hard that the County
is asking for a 10% increase in taxes as well as putting a referendum on the
ballot for open space. Her brother that lives in DuPage County just
finished paying $70.00 a year for their open space tax for DuPage County
Forest Preserve. When a Forest Preserve requires more money they then
require more power, and when more power comes then they take more farmland.
When she spoke to a couple of people they told her that when people come and
move out to DeKalb County that they want open space, and with the new zoning
laws she feels that it will restrict her value. Now the pocket book will be
bigger for the Forest Preserve and whose land are they going to come and
take? She wishes that the county board would not accept the increase of 10%
and definitely not the referendum for the Forest Preserve Open Space
Referendum.
Mr. Haines wanted to make a point of clarification for the members in the
audience that this is the public hearing for the County Board Budget and
that the hearing for the Forest Preserve District budget will be held on
Tuesday, November 15, 2005. They are two separate budgets, he said. The
Forest Preserves money is levied separately from the County’s budget. He
also wanted to clarify that the money would only be coming from a willing
seller, there would be no taking of land.
Ms. Burton said that she understands that this is how the current county
board feels, but not everyone will be on the county board in 5 years from
now because once you open the “Pandora’s box” everyone will have to live
with it including the people of the county.
Mr. Steve Kuhn, Sycamore, Illinois, cautioned the county board to be
judicious and look at the budget and be careful. He also said to look at
the referendums that are out there. How many taxes can you put out there?
Chairman Whelan, having heard everyone, closed the public hearing on the
property tax levy.
PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED
FY2006 BUDGET
Chairman Whelan called the public hearing to order on the proposed FY2006
budget. No one asked to be heard.
Chairman Whelan closed the public hearing on the proposed FY2006 budget.
OPEN DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED
BUDGET
Chairman Whelan asked Mr. Sands to let the committee know his feelings about
the proposed county budget. Mr. Sands said that the 7.9% proposed
increase in taxes is a lot of money. We need to reduce the budget back to
5%. This is our job and we’re required to make tough decisions. He feels
that we should not rely on the taxpayers, we can rely on new construction
and new sales tax money, he said. He feels that the county should set aside
for the jail expansion or construction if we don’t cut taxes.
Mr. Haines said that taxes are what the citizens of the County use to get
the services for everyone in the County. They are not only the for the
wealthy, he continued. Taxes are voluntarily paid to help us get services
and protect ourselves. As the county grows, how can we have it both ways?
That is, we have a larger county, more people, more stores to shop in, but
our taxes go down. He doesn’t understand that equation, it’s a hard one to
pull off. At some point as the county gets bigger and better, in order to
maintain the quality of life that we have come to realize, we have to ante
up and meet the agreement that we have all entered into, which is to provide
services for all of us.
Mr. Haines would also like the record to show that he is both a homeowner
and he owns farmland. In the last four (4) years, his home taxes have gone
up each and every year, as Mr. Sands has pointed out. But my farmland taxes
have gone down 10% every single year. It’s important to understand that in
four years it’s gone down by 40% on farmland property taxes.
Mr. Augsburger said that he has confidence that our County Administrators
are well aware of the needs and services of the County and have not
frivolously approved everything in the budget request. He also is a
taxpayer and owns farmland.
Ms. Vary said that the 4.6% increase is there to try and finance all of the
services that increase because of that new construction. It is not
something extra, it is there to finance because we need more services, fire,
police, etc. That is what the new construction money is there for. With
the Opportunity Fund - where is that money going? It is being set aside to
help create things to generate new money like experimental programs. This
year it will go to the Sycamore Campus property; drug court; which will help
to decrease crime and help to decrease the jail population, and for the
lobbyists at the federal level to help get money earmarked for us. She also
said that no one has mentioned that we paid off some debts off early last
year. She is willing to pay taxes for education, health insurance at the
state level for every child and for services. Ms. Vary also said that part
of the reason that our taxes go up is because the federal government has cut
taxes, those then go to the state level to fund, which in turn goes to the
local level.
Mr. Steimel said that he wishes that the formula he would like the county to
follow is that we provide the services needed with using the existing tax
rates that we have. The fastest growing services that we have in this
county is law and justice. He would like to put the emphasis on the jail
referendum, we don’t want anything to upset the public because we need a
positive vote on that. He is asking that we use the sales tax monies
wisely. We have $350,000 for health insurance, we have $800,000 for bridge
repair, $400,000 for election equipment for the handicapped and these are
some things that we have included in the budget.
Mr. Steimel also said that with the sales tax monies to help build the new
building for the home health care and new offices for housing other county
offices - it will cost $2,000,000. He feels that we should put that on
hold. The $19,000 that we pay for rent is a good deal, and the Veteran’s
don’t know what is going to happen yet on the referendum.
Mr. Hanson said that the $2,000,000 from the health department is most of
their share. Another $600,000 would be used from the sales tax money to
fund the home care portion.
Ms. Dubin said that she also is concerned about the 3 referendums and if
DeKalb comes out with a school referendum, ours may not go through. The
jail referendum is very important and she feels that we also need to
emphasize this referendum. This budget is visionary, it also looks at what
the county will need down the line like the home health care building.
Ms. Tobias pointed out that the property tax rate went down this year and
the assessed value of homes has increased. We are building wealth for
citizens this year for the future and we need to look at future building and
space needs. We have done really well in managing the employee growth.
Ms. Turner asked Mr. Sands that he wants to cut the budget by $375,000,
where do you suggest we cut it from, and if we cut that money now it is her
understanding that we will never get it back.
Mr. Sands
said yes, that’s correct. He also said that he would be willing to sit on a
sub-committee of the Finance Committee to discuss where to cut the
budget. He would just like to see us give the taxpayers a break.
Mr. Slack said that he stands behind the home health care building and that
the jail referendum is important.
Mr. Haines said that he is new to the board and understand where the
$2,000,000 comes from, that is, sales tax and anticipated revenues.
However, where does the $375,000 figure come from? Mr. Hanson said that to
reduce the tax levy from 7.9% to 5% it is a reduction of $375,000.
Ms. Leifheit
said that if we do cut the budget by $375,000 we would not have a balanced
budget. It will impact our services, and if you cut this amount, it is lost
forever.
After further discussion, it was moved by Mr. Augsburger, seconded by Ms.
Tobias and it was carried to forward the FY2006 budget to the full board for
approval. Mr. Sands voted no.
ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES
Mr. Bockman’s recommendations for the elected officials salaries are on a
handout that are highlighted with boxes around the figures (see page
attached). He did research by looking at the current compensation levels
from larger and smaller counties than ours.
Moved by Mr. Augsburger, seconded by Mr. Sands and it was carried
unanimously to forward this recommendation to the full board for
approval.
OLD BUSINESS
Mr. Sands said that with the $120,000 budgeted to pay for the lobbyists, did
anyone find out what the City of DeKalb and the City of Sycamore are paying
the Daley Group? Mr. Bockman said that he did not know but that he believed
it was talked about at the Executive Committee. It was agreed to bring the
issue back to the Executive Committee and see what they lobbyist is charging
them. Mr. Bockman said that he believed that the Daley Group is lower than
$120,000.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Ms. Tobias, seconded by Ms. Leifheit, and it was carried
unanimously to adjourn the meeting.
Respectively
submitted by,
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Jeff Whelan,
Chairman
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Mary C.
Supple, Secretary |